This might be just my Amiga, but the OS3.5 version of Multiview seems
to like locking up from time to time. Anyone else noticed this happen?
Oh, and has anyone else stopped using their mouse because you can use
the keyboard to move around the icons, or does this novelty wear off?

> This might be just my Amiga, but the OS3.5 version of Multiview seems
> to like locking up from time to time.

Only when I try and load 8Mb JPEG files with only 7.9Mb of memory
left ;)

> Oh, and has anyone else stopped using their mouse because you can use
> the keyboard to move around the icons, or does this novelty wear off?

It's annoying me, because I used to use TAB to open the Execute Command
box - now it selects the RAM disk :)

I have used the facility, though, it's especially useful when you've
sorted your directories into alphabetical order and want to step to
Code without looking for the name (ran out of icons ;)

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Oh, and has anyone else stopped using their mouse because you can use
> the keyboard to move around the icons, or does this novelty wear off?

You've always been able to do that.... amiga and arrow keys, use shift to make
it "jump" IIRC.  Have they changed it at all?

RobM

> > Oh, and has anyone else stopped using their mouse because you can
use
> > the keyboard to move around the icons, or does this novelty wear
off?
> 
> You've always been able to do that.... amiga and arrow keys, use
shift to make
> it "jump" IIRC.  Have they changed it at all?
> 
What does IIRC mean? In 3.5 you can use the arrow keys to scroll the
window, or press tab to make it select individual icons. Shift makes it
jump as you say. But it's smooth baby, it no longer refreshes (flicks).

>> it "jump" IIRC.  Have they changed it at all?

> What does IIRC mean? In 3.5 you can use the arrow keys to scroll the

Sorry, IIRC - If I Recall Correctly; it's been a while since I've used the
keyboard for the mouse!

RobM

Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> Again, IIRC, MagicLink wasn't on the coverdisk..
> 
> Or was it?
It was. There were two, infact - a demo (in the appropriate sareware
drawer type thing) and the full version with C4d (which requires a
serial number)

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> Sealey, M. wrote:
> > 
> > Again, IIRC, MagicLink wasn't on the coverdisk..
> > 
> > Or was it?
>
> It was. There were two, infact - a demo (in the appropriate sareware
> drawer type thing) and the full version with C4d (which requires a
> serial number)

Neat. I didn't pay much attention to the CUCD version anyway, 'cos
I ordered the full version + manuals + lots of other discounted
stuff using the deals anyway. Installing it only to have to install
it again to use my new product number would have been a bit stupid,
no?

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi Matthew,

>> spent months on actually bringing in some cash. Three people have bought
>> NetConnect 3 - the rest were upgrades. All the other sales have been lost
>> to piracy.

> So people are upgrading? we all know there are no new users commingto
> amiga, what can we do?, nothing. if the big (ish) companies can't bring in
> more users, then tough. I'm not going out preaching

Well, that would make sense if absolutely everyone had NC2, but they don't,
so the market *is* large enough for a little growth...

>> They do, but it's actually a much safer bet investing in hardware because
>> it's not so easy to pirate.

> AFAIK its impossible to pirate. Haven't seen many Blizzurd o3o boards
> nocking about...

No, but designs have been pinched before now...

All the best,
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Tudor Davies wrote:
> c.70K

You must have a KA amiga setup, then - you have no excuse for not
getting decent hardware, and registewring all that shareware.

-curry, on 135 per year... if he's a good boy and tidies his bedroom.

-- 
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On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 11:44:59AM -0800, xatiminey wrote:

> You must have a KA amiga setup, then - you have no excuse for not
> getting decent hardware, and registewring all that shareware.

Strangely enough...
'060 in the post, PIV running like a dream, networked A4000
Then I will be ordering a CSPPC for the A4K and move the 060 into the A3000.

atm I am working on moving my entire business onto the Amigas - using STFax4
for voice/fax (currently on PC) and also WP/Spreadsheet - WW7 and TurboCalc
5 from Word and Excel.

l8r

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Hi Tim,

>> Here are the results of the vote:

>> 1. CD in a wallet (like AA)                                  1
>> 2. Something else every now and then (book, stickers etc)    2
>> 3. CD in a single case (thinner type)                        8
>> 4. CD in jewel case (we have these now)                     13

> We're supposed to get a useful result out of 23 people?  This is a bit
> of a pointless poll.  Why wasn't it left to run for longer?

Would it have made any difference to the number of people responding?
(Fatalistic Ben).

All the best,
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Hi Gary,

> Is there an equivalent to the _vector graphics_ prog Coral Draw on the
> Amiga. I need to produce an assignment using this type of prog, and it
> cannot be done using a bitmap prog.

There was - Draw Studio, but because no-one bought it they gave up on it.
Not sure where you'd get it from now...

All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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Why is the word mnemonic so hard to remember?

Hi Andy,

>> Also, I'd like to know more about making models, maybe in a cad
>> program first. How is this done, could I use Xcad to design the
>> models, then import them into C4d/Imagine?

> As for a c4d tute in AF; I'm not sure if I would like to see heavy
> coverage of a package no longer being developed. . .

> There are many modelling/lighting/surfacing techniques that are fairly
> generic; which would be a good way to go if there was to be a 3d tute.
> Something usefull to all.

> If you want to be software specific, then be specific about a package
> folks can still buy a fairly recent version of :)

It'd be nice if it could happen, but since we don't have anyone who'd write
one, it doesn't look like going ahead. If any of you lot want to write a
C4D/Imagine tutorial, then let us know...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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Excuse for the day: piezo-electric interference

Hi Samuel,

> Ive got an offer for a A4000 for around =A3100 What id like to know is
> whether the revisions are the good or bad ones (included in the mail wa=
s a
> picture with all these details on them, I dont know how pertinant the
> numbers are:

Yep, get it while it's hot... =


All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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I know Karate, Kung Fu, and 47 other dangerous words.

Hi Samuel,

> :) kinda what I was figuring, but I know theres some dodgy(ish) revision
> out there, so I didnt want to buy one only to find I would have to spend
> through the nose to get it fixed...as it is I'll have to buy a decent
> accelerator - G4 later or 060 PPC now? Hmm, hard one that! and then a
> tower if i really want to.

Why not use our feature on buying secondhand Amigas in AF129?

> Is the opalvision a proper graphics card like a Cybergraphics or whatever
> (obviously not PPC).

Nope. It's not RTG, but it does have one of the best paint packages ever...

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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Hyperbole is absolutely the worst mistake you can possibly make

Ben Vost wrote:
> It'd be nice if it could happen, but since we don't have anyone who'd write
> one, it doesn't look like going ahead. If any of you lot want to write a
> C4D/Imagine tutorial, then let us know...

I would, but I need one as much as anyone else...
I still can't figure out how to edit the scanline/raytracing prefs
within the editor and I can't quite handle animation yet (I have done
one, but it was a tad crap). There's a bucket load of other stuff I
can't work out, too, like why the "A-(B)" boolean operator doesn't cover
up exposed sides, and why the polyon objects do the same thing each time
you select them after the first usage, unless you delete you're
polygons.

Grrr... if only I was 40 and a CD drive better off when the C4D offer
was valid...


-curry, neurotic and hating it

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Hi Matthew

> Hey,
> how about a nice small amiga article or feature? even in the
> brief section?

I regularly drop in references and snippets about the Amiga into Computing
whenever I can - you clearly haven't been paying attention :)

Also, don't for get that a number of well-known Amiga figures also
contribute to Computing including Jason Compton, Andrew Korn and Simon
Archer.

> Hang on.....Great big IT Newspaper.......amiga user...... surely you must
> be able to wrangle some news out of someone!!?

All I can say is that as a journalist I am often bound by non-disclosure
agreements (NDAs) which prevent me from publishing any information I might
have before a particular date or event.

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160      Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
..................................................................

Hi Dan,

> Been reading through some old list archives off the AFCD recently, saw
> some talk of the worries of AF's future, since the circulation is now down
> to, 13,264. CU closed at around 21,000, Ben assured us that Future do not
> expect as much as Emap did, but they did close every other Amiga mag they
> were running down, Amiga Shopper had a circulation of around 22,000 when
> they closed IIRC!

> Not wanting to upset anyone, or disbelieve any comments, just worries me a
> bit, now that we know there probably won't be a future for the machine.

> Me? I haven't used an Amiga since the end of September, but I still buy AF
> and Amiga Active, I still like reading about them, and will get mine fixed
> up again some time in the future, just to reminice.

The thing that makes the difference is how much money a magazine makes, and
not all of that comes from newsstand readership. It's also down to ads and
subscriptions. AF is budgeted through all of next year, even with a further
fall in readership and ads, so I wouldn't worry about it.

All the best,
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Excuse for the day: typo in cdoe

Hi Darren,

> I take it that this is not finished yet and havn't started distributing as
> I've had a back order with Blittersoft for atleast 3 Months

We've got our copy now and I'm poring over it as we speak.

All the best,
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         I'll try anything once too often

Hi Dan

AF is a profitable magazine, thanks to its broad range of advertising
revenues and its high subscription base.

In addition, Future has a much different cost structure to that of Emap, and
so has lower operating costs for each magazine, ensuring that it can make a
profit out of a magazine on very, very low circulation.

For example, Future's very first magazine (and my first freelance gig at
Future) was Amstrad Action. This mag closed when the circulation fell to
around 3,500, and even then it was making less than 1,000 a month in
losses.

It too had a very high subs base, which helped sustain it through to the
end. AF is in the same healthy position (feel free to jump in Ben if I'm
talking cobblers) so I wouldn't expect it to disappear any time soon.

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160      Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
..................................................................

Hi Tudor,

> Again I agree with Matt - I have 5 'O' levels (remember them!) and earn=

> c.=A370K because of my 10 years networking knowledge. I work in a

Coo blow Tudor. Beer's are on you at the next SWAG meeting! :)

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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Why not write us a reader review of a piece of
your hardware or software?

Hi Tudor,

> Agreed - but the argument from Matthew was that a degree is better than
> experience, whereas they really rate like this (for employers!):
> 1/ Experience with degree
> 2/ Experience
> 3/ Degree

Doesn't stop emploers from asking for graduates the whole time though... :(

All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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Evil Surgeons Demand Black Smocks

Hi Chris,

>> Hang on.....Great big IT Newspaper.......amiga user...... surely you must
>> be able to wrangle some news out of someone!!?

> All I can say is that as a journalist I am often bound by non-disclosure
> agreements (NDAs) which prevent me from publishing any information I might
> have before a particular date or event.

Amen to that!

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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Suborbital Ballistic-Propulsion Engineer Not 
Exactly A Rocket Scientist

Ben Vost wrote:
> > All I can say is that as a journalist I am often bound by non-disclosure
> > agreements (NDAs) which prevent me from publishing any information I might
> > have before a particular date or event.
> 
> Amen to that!
> 
So to find out the latest news, we just have to become freelance
journalists, sign NDAs and attend press conferences? Do you get to tell
your colleages (in which case only one of us needs to go) or is that
against the NDA?

-curry, cheating again.

-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

Does someone out there know the specs of Z4(transfer speeds,n=BAbits of
addressing and data etc. ,...anything) and its differences to Z2 and
Z3? 
Also, the new Z4 board fits where in the A4000, in the expansion slot
or in the same place of the Z3board? If in the expansion slot, the
A4000 motherboard is getting too dated. They should do motherboards
along with accelerators, like that maybe the amiga wouldn=B4t be known as
dead to many. If it fits in the same place of the Z3 daughterboard,
it=B4s design(of the A4000 motherboard) deserves merit, it=B4s not dated,
and the modular motherboard design that to me and many would be the
best, has already been achieved same years ago!. That of couse if the
transfer speeds are good.
 Anyway the advantages of zorro(autoconfig? etc. i don=B4t know it very
well) should be publicised, and maybe it could be even licensed to
other platforms, with the condition of having the name amiga in big
letters, for eveyone ot know the amiga is alive and it=B4s the best.
They=B4d think, wow, if this is the bus, how is the computer? What is
Amiga Inc. doing that they haven=B4t done this yet? 
Those guys are getting us irritated. Do we have to do everything?

Thanks. 
P.S. I hope Z4 is what it was expected to be, after all this talk, and
that you have the patience to read it.(:)) 

Hi xatiminey,

> So to find out the latest news, we just have to become freelance
> journalists, sign NDAs and attend press conferences? Do you get to tell
> your colleages (in which case only one of us needs to go) or is that
> against the NDA?

It's agin the word o' god, let alone an NDA, you young whippersnapper,
doggonit!

All the best,
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    Try: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Ben Vost <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  06-Dec-99 22:04:36
 Re:  [afb] Re: Back to Amiga topic (was Matt need mod.)

Hi Ben,

> Doesn't stop employers from asking for graduates the whole time though... :(

It's a way of culling down numerous applicants for a job.

Bye,
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On 05-Dec-99, Anthony Prime wrote:

> (before you say "SEARCH AMINET" Mr Sealey) actaully know what to
> search for.

Hang on....wait....the brain is ticking.... ok think what you need to search
for is "zip" yeah thats the best I could come up with.

(jeez some people) or better still maybe unzip ? see the link? you want to
use a zip file, therefore you search for zip, geddit?

Mash - 
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"Y'all must be hearin' things." - Data

> On 05-Dec-99, Anthony Prime wrote:
> 
> > (before you say "SEARCH AMINET" Mr Sealey) actaully know what to
> > search for.
> 
> Hang on....wait....the brain is ticking.... ok think what you 
> need to search for is "zip" yeah thats the best I could come up
> with.
> 
> (jeez some people) or better still maybe unzip ? see the 
> link? you want to use a zip file, therefore you search for
> zip, geddit?

LOL! 

You see what I mean? Duh! :)

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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:
> (jeez some people) or better still maybe unzip ? see the link? you want to
> use a zip file, therefore you search for zip, geddit?

  To search for "unzip" is not as obvious as you might think.


bye,
  Chris (WooHoo! Egroups is sending me afb mail again)

> I still can't figure out how to edit the scanline/raytracing prefs
> within the editor

Hold SHIFT while you click on the button to Scanline or Raytrace

> can't work out, too, like why the "A-(B)" boolean operator=20
> doesn't cover up exposed sides, and why the polyon objects do
> the same thing each time you select them after the first usage,
> unless you delete you're polygons.

Weird.. you using the same version of C4D? :)

> Grrr... if only I was =A340 and a CD drive better off when the
> C4D offer was valid...

Too late now! Bwahahaahah!

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

>  Chris (WooHoo! Egroups is sending me afb mail again)

When did it start again Chris?  I started getting mine again this weekend -
after nearly 2 weeks without!

RobM

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:
> >  Chris (WooHoo! Egroups is sending me afb mail again)
> 
> When did it start again Chris?  I started getting mine again this weekend -
> after nearly 2 weeks without!

  Sunday, I think.  Alough it might be because I did that "go to the site
and send YOURSELF a mail" trick.


bye,
  Chris

On 6. Dec 1999 Ben Vost wrote:

>> Agreed - but the argument from Matthew was that a
>> degree is better than experience, whereas they
>> really rate like this (for employers!):
>> 1/ Experience with degree
>> 2/ Experience
>> 3/ Degree

> Doesn't stop emploers from asking for graduates the
> whole time though... :(

Probably because they have given up trying to find
people with relevant experience.

For this reason lots of companies do inhouse training.
That's how I started my professional career.

The attitude of my first boss was very much like Matt
Sealey's.  He never once let me forget that my degrees
were of no value to him.  He also was one of my best
teachers ever.  To his credit, it took me only four
years to outrank him.

It is true; nothing beats practical experience.
However, the sort of analytical skills that you can
acquire through theoretical studies also come in handy  :)


Regards,

Armin

>  Sunday, I think.  Alough it might be because I did that "go to the site
> and send YOURSELF a mail" trick.

Looks like it started at the same time for both of us - must be an e-groups
glitch!
Ah well, at least it's back....

RobM

Hi Chris

> I'm thinking about ordering some stuff from Alive Mediasoft *but*
they don't
> take credit cards,  I seem to remember, they applied for 'credit card
> status' but must have been turned down or somefink.  
> 
> Any comments on their service/support?

Ive never had any trouble with them, and although you cant order via
the web, you can order with a credit card over the phone.  They are
very fast with delivering stock, and apart from Settlers II (never
arrived for obvious resaons - at which point I was in credit with them
until I had spent it (the prophet and a clip art cd)) and recently
Foundation Directors cut, which is out of stock, but Im assured will be
in before christmas I have had no problems with them whatsoever.

Disks dont work? send them back and they will check them out for you. 
Only the disks mind, you dont have to waste postage money on the box or
anything.

+ you get a very nice booklet each month (which gets better in quality
and content every issue)

Enough reason to shop with them?  No?  Well, they also have a XMas sale
on at the moment making their cheap prices even cheaper!

Beat that.

Bifford the Youngest.

> On 6. Dec 1999 Ben Vost wrote:
> 
> > > Agreed - but the argument from Matthew was that a
> > > degree is better than experience, whereas they
> > > really rate like this (for employers!):
> > > 1/ Experience with degree
> > > 2/ Experience
> > > 3/ Degree
> 
> > Doesn't stop emploers from asking for graduates the
> > whole time though... :(
> 
> Probably because they have given up trying to find
> people with relevant experience.

No, it really is a technique to cut down applicants.

You get two classes of people - the generic "I have
a degree and therefore rule the world" type, and the
ones confident enough to apply for a job 'requiring'
a degree when they don't have one.

That confidence counts for more than a 3 year degree -
if you think you can beat the graduates to the job..

> The attitude of my first boss was very much like Matt
> Sealey's.  He never once let me forget that my degrees
> were of no value to him.  He also was one of my best
> teachers ever.  To his credit, it took me only four
> years to outrank him.

LOL!

> It is true; nothing beats practical experience.
> However, the sort of analytical skills that you can
> acquire through theoretical studies also come in
> handy  :)

By doing in-house training, those theoretical skills
can be learnt anyway..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:
> Looks like it started at the same time for both of us - must be an e-groups
> glitch!
> Ah well, at least it's back....

  Yep... so have we must and big breaking news stories then?  No, oh.

  Anyone care to recap?  I've checked a few news sites, but there seems to
be nothing of substance and a lot of "Hurrah! Pointless App 12.314 has
been released"  ;)

bye,
  Chris

Hi Chris,

> For example, Future's very first magazine (and my first freelance gig
at
> Future) was Amstrad Action. This mag closed when the circulation fell
to
> around 3,500, and even then it was making less than =A31,000 a month in
> losses.
> 
> It too had a very high subs base, which helped sustain it through to
the
> end. AF is in the same healthy position (feel free to jump in Ben if
I'm
> talking cobblers) so I wouldn't expect it to disappear any time soon.


Yay!  I have an Amstrad!  An old CPC 464, Tape drive and green screen
monitor.  Love Frontier Elite II, given away on Amstrad Action (to
which I subbed till the end).  8 minutes to load, vector graphics, damn
playable, I had at least 20 A4 sheets with planet information and
average goods cost on them! And that was just for the first galaxy. 
Lost count how many planets I visited in the second galazy before
moving on to number 3.

:)

Bifford the Youngest.

> > I still can't figure out how to edit the scanline/raytracing prefs
> > within the editor
> 
> Hold SHIFT while you click on the button to Scanline or Raytrace

Or, if like me your really lazy, use the right mouse button to access
the menu instead of the left one.

> > Grrr... if only I was =A340 and a CD drive better off when the
> > C4D offer was valid...
> 
> Too late now! Bwahahaahah!

I did! I have manuals! and MagicLink serial number - though what the
hell Im supposed to do with this program is beyond me? Never heard of
it till AFB mentioned it...

Bifford the Youngest.

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:36:52 -0000, Chris Green (editor@amigainsight.com) wrote:
> Hi Matthew
> 
> > Hey,
> > how about a nice small amiga article or feature? even in the
> > brief section?
> 
> I regularly drop in references and snippets about the Amiga into Computing
> whenever I can - you clearly haven't been paying attention :)

I have   ;-)

> Also, don't for get that a number of well-known Amiga figures also
> contribute to Computing including Jason Compton, Andrew Korn and Simon
> Archer.

Didn't Mr Korn do a review of the web-page creation package, with all the
images showing him designing the WoA page?   :-)
 
> > Hang on.....Great big IT Newspaper.......amiga user...... surely you must
> > be able to wrangle some news out of someone!!?
> 
> All I can say is that as a journalist I am often bound by non-disclosure
> agreements (NDAs) which prevent me from publishing any information I might
> have before a particular date or event.

Do you have any such information currently?  How long do we have to wait
until you can tell us what it is?  :)

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

Hi Sam

> Yay!  I have an Amstrad!  An old CPC 464, Tape drive and green screen
> monitor.  Love Frontier Elite II, given away on Amstrad Action (to
> which I subbed till the end).

LOL - I would have loved to have seen a 464 (or a 6128 for that matter) run
Elite II. I'm afraid it was only the original Elite that AA gave away on the
covertape, Elite 2 was never ported to the CPC :(

Ah...memories.................

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160      Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
..................................................................

Hi Kevin

> Didn't Mr Korn do a review of the web-page creation package, with all the
> images showing him designing the WoA page?   :-)

That's right. The Fireworks review was a bit of a visual Amiga-fest :)

> Do you have any such information currently?  How long do we have to wait
> until you can tell us what it is?  :)

NDAs...mumble mumble......confidentiality.....mumble.......off-record
discussions.....mumble mumble

Seriously though, I have been talking in depth with QNX, Gateway and a few
other involved parties, but I am under NDA for a while yet I'm afraid.

Sorry!

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160      Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
..................................................................

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  06-Dec-99 03:50:41
 Re:  [afb] Re: Unzipping - no sniggering at the back...

Hi Matthew,

>> (before you say "SEARCH AMINET" Mr Sealey) actaully know what to
>> search for.

> Hang on....wait....the brain is ticking.... ok think what you need to search
> for is "zip" yeah thats the best I could come up with.

> (jeez some people) or better still maybe unzip ? see the link? you want to
> use a zip file, therefore you search for zip, geddit?

Just don't ever even consider doing a search for "Zip" on an IBuM file
archive, or "LhA" on Aminet.  ;-)

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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Hey Pekka

On 06-dec-99, you wrote:

> Hello Oliver
> 
> 
> 
> I have that, but it crashesalmost every time I use it, if I try to make
> several tasks at the same time, for example if some site has slow
> connection and I try to dl another site. By exit it crashes quite often,
> too. 3.5 made no difference.
> 
I had it crashing a lot. So I took a closer look at it and found out that just
before crashing I found my FastMem was running out. So I've increased the
amount of memory IBrowse should leave available. For me that did the trick.


Regards
-- 
Bert Volders

bert@volders.demon.nl
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice.
-- James P. Hogan

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:41:16 -0000, Chris Green (editor@amigainsight.com) wrote:
> Hi Kevin
> 
> > Didn't Mr Korn do a review of the web-page creation package, with all the
> > images showing him designing the WoA page?   :-)
> 
> That's right. The Fireworks review was a bit of a visual Amiga-fest :)

And rightly so   ;)

> > Do you have any such information currently?  How long do we have to wait
> > until you can tell us what it is?  :)
> 
> NDAs...mumble mumble......confidentiality.....mumble.......off-record
> discussions.....mumble mumble

You'll have to speak up, I can't quite catch what you're saying ...
 
> Seriously though, I have been talking in depth with QNX, Gateway and a few
> other involved parties, but I am under NDA for a while yet I'm afraid.

Are you allowed to answer yes or no to a very simple question - is the
future still as rosy as some people have made out?  :)

> Sorry!

Bah, humbug!   :)

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

> PowerFlyer is working in 'Safe mode'. Erm? (And no RTFM please, as I
> have).

YOU GOT A MANUAL WITH YOURS?!????  Lucky bast. I didn't get one my PowerF=
lyer 4000 gold, or with my old Blizzard 1230 MkIV back in my old A1200 da=
ys either. Weird.

-- =

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Real meanings #7:
COBOL: Come On, Bloody 'Orrible Language

Hello Tudor Davies, on 06-Dec-99 09:38:10 you said about:
  [afb] Re: M.Sealey needs moderating 

[snip]

>Note the lack of smileys in this email - you have pissed me of too.

I'd take note of that, I've known Tudor for a while now and never known
him to get "pissed" before.... :-/

-- 
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Hello MARRISR@uk.ibm.com

On 06-Dec-99, you wrote:

> 
> 
>>  Chris (WooHoo! Egroups is sending me afb mail again)
> 
> When did it start again Chris?  I started getting mine again this weekend -
> after nearly 2 weeks without!

Mine bounced about a month ago and after I un-bounced it still no mail until
this last weekend. afb-movie has resumed again as well. :)
 
Regards
-- 
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
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-- Albert Einstein

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Chris Andrews wrote:
>   Yep... so have we must and big breaking news stories then?  No, oh.

  What?!?

  More specifically, what was this about someone buying Amiga (again).
The general computing news seem convinced that Gateway are using amiga
patented stuff in their set top thingies.

bye,
  Chris

"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=39165

> It'd be nice if it could happen, but since we don't have anyone who'd
write
> one, it doesn't look like going ahead. If any of you lot want to
write a
> C4D/Imagine tutorial, then let us know...

there's this guy from one of the Amiga user-groups who writes
c4D-tutorials.
He is on your CD's as well. He writes nice tutorials, the were a great
help to me.

I forgot his name, my fault, but he's an Irvine fan.

greets
maarten 

>> =A370,000!?!?!?!?!?!?
>> =

>> /me faints at the thought of so much money

> Age 28 - married (second time) 1 daughter (baby)
> Work record:
> age 15 - YTS for PC/Mac dealer
> age 16 - Support technician for Financial Corporate
> age 17 - Network technician for Bank
> age 21 - network installation engineer (cabling, routers, bridges, AS40=
0,
> PCs, OS/2) for Bank (same)
> age 23 - team leader for support group for Bank (same)
> age 25 - Level3 support - Networking systems for Bank (same)
> age 27 - Level3 support - Networking systems over 10 sites for IBM
> age 28 - Integration Consultant - current

> When you get there it's great - but it took a lot of grunt :)

> And all without any "further education" --- I am the case in point :)


I feel this is a good point to say that his fellow SWAGgers have voted Tu=
dor "Jammy Git of the Year". :)


-- =

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Real meanings #16:
LISP: Little Inflatable Sex Puppy

chris faircloth <chrisf-@ihug.co.nz> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=38746
> Hello Steven
> 
> On 02-Dec-99, you wrote:
> 
> >SH Anyone know how to stop the damned annoying scrolling of a
> >SH backdrop/window picture in OS3.5?
> >SH I bloody hate it and want it static as before.
> 
> So long as you have your screen mode correct for your display all you
need to
> do is turn  auto scroll off,  also to be found in the screen mode
requester. 
> 
> This works for me, I hope it will help you.

Didn't make any difference...


Steven Holmes

Chris Green said, 

> In addition, Future has a much different cost structure to that of Emap, and
> so has lower operating costs for each magazine, ensuring that it can make a
> profit out of a magazine on very, very low circulation.

Also, the decision to close CU wasn't taken purely on the basis of the
profit it generated. EMAP were going through a reorganisation and two
magazines needed to close for that reorganisation to take place.

The other victim was a Sega magazine with a circulation of 33,000.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
WinErr 00C: Memory hog error - More Ram needed. More! More! More!

Hi Matthew,

> I know, its more of a round up of the stuff on the net now. Gone are the
> days when AF could secure an exclusive story, now everything is slowly
> (very!) leaked onto the net. There hasn't been a story on collas, amiga,
> the new machine, 3rd parties or anything for months :( If Ben canne' get
> insider info, we're screwed. I'd really like to know what Collas is up to

The main problem is that what goes on the net isn't always gospel. Trust me,
we'll have stories on new Amiga if and when they happen, but right now,
there's bugger all going on. Talking of which, we've got a massiv 15M for
our CD again this issue from readers. Thanks guys...

PS. You probably won't hear about Jim for a long time. He signed a
non-competition clause when he joined Gateway/was promoted inside Gateway,
which means that he can't work for a competing computer company for at
least two years, otherwise he can be sued and will also lose a huge sum of
money in share options...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
World Health Organisation Appeals For Snappy Name 
For Devastating New Plague

can anyone help - i have been using a squirrell interface with my a1200
with a CD rom on ID3 i recently added a HD on ID6 - but i cannot get
the HD to appear when the CD rom is connected - both are ok on there
own but together the HD always disapears (scsi mounter says the CD rom
inhabits ID's 0-6 i think) ???

On 06-Dec-99 MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:

>>  Chris (WooHoo! Egroups is sending me afb mail again)
> 
> When did it start again Chris? I started getting mine again this
> weekend - after nearly 2 weeks without!
> 
> RobM

What? you people too? O_O I thought I was the only one experiencing this
weird phenomenon... I started receiving mail on the weekend as well,
after a LONG silence (re-setting my preferences at Egroups hadnt
helped, so I had almost given up hope).


- Jani
-- 
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"

Hi Neil

> Also, the decision to close CU wasn't taken purely on the basis of the
> profit it generated. EMAP were going through a reorganisation and two
> magazines needed to close for that reorganisation to take place.

Oh yes - and that as well, though Emap have never admitted that the main
reason it sacrificed two profitable magazines was simply so that they could
move everyone into a smaller set of offices - even if we all know otherwise
:)

Bloody capitalists, burn them all!

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160      Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
..................................................................

Greetings  Ben 

On 06-Dec-99, you wrote:

> Hi Darren,

>> I take it that this is not finished yet and havn't started
>> distributing as I've had a back order with Blittersoft for atleast
>> 3 Months

> We've got our copy now and I'm poring over it as we speak.

Hurrah! I'll look forward to the review.

> All the best,
Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk>
Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours.

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Chris Green wrote:
> Oh yes - and that as well, though Emap have never admitted that the main
> reason it sacrificed two profitable magazines was simply so that they could
> move everyone into a smaller set of offices - even if we all know otherwise

  Well, in the case of Sega Saturn Magazine, Sega Europe had just released
the last Saturn game that they were going to release in Europe.  SSM was
going the way of Amiga Power, fun to read, but pretty pointless in it's
context.  ...and at the time the Dreamcast was too far away to keep it
alive with EMAP having no intention of going for the official DC magazing
license.

  (Obviously all the other stuff was in play as well).


bye,
  Chris

I know this is completely off-topic and people have had lengthy
discussions over it but I have to tell you this.

Today we got a memo circulated 'round the office. It began:

"Research has shown that Windows crashes on average 3 times a day..."

Aahahahaahhaaahahahahaha!!!!!

Paul C, well it made me laugh anyway
-- 
... Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

I just read a /very/ interesting mail where you said about [afb] Re: Back to Amiga topic (was Matt need mod.):

I hate getting involved in these, but...

> Agreed - but the argument from Matthew was that a degree is better than
> experience, whereas they really rate like this (for employers!):
> 1/ Experience with degree
> 2/ Experience
> 3/ Degree

Not always. Where I work they like taking on people /without/ degrees
and /without/ experience because
a) they don't have to pay you as much
b) they get to train you up exactly how they want
c) they still charge clients stoopid money for your work.

> Tudor Davies

Paul C, I blame the parents
-- 
... Q. Why are a violinist's fingers like lightning?
    A. They rarely strike the same place twice.

On 05-Dec-99 23:52:26 GMT, Pekka Sippola wrote:

>> Make sure you have the latest javascript libraries installed,
>> available from: http://www.hisoft.co.uk/amigashop/ibrowse_faq.html
>> Other than that, it's hard to say what the problem is - IB 2.1
>> certainly doesn't crash very often for me.

> I have that, but it crashesalmost every time I use it, if I try to make
> several tasks at the same time, for example if some site has slow
> connection and I try to dl another site. By exit it crashes quite often,
> too. 3.5 made no difference.

So, you often use multiple windows and/or browser?  I must admit that
I try to avoid using those when I can, because I know they tend to greatly
increase the chances of IB crashing :(  If you stick with a single window,
then you should be a lot better off - hopefully, it will be fixed in 2.2.

-- 
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<tsb>

On 06-Dec-99 21:48:23 GMT, Terry Imrie wrote:

> can anyone help - i have been using a squirrell interface with my a1200
> with a CD rom on ID3 i recently added a HD on ID6 - but i cannot get
> the HD to appear when the CD rom is connected - both are ok on there
> own but together the HD always disapears (scsi mounter says the CD rom
> inhabits ID's 0-6 i think) ???

Sounds like you haven't terminated the SCSI chain properly.  The last
device on the chain, physically, must be terminated - other devices
should not be terminated.  I'm guessing that your HD is the last
device on your chain, right?  Check that termination is disabled on
your CD-ROM (there's probably a jumper to set it - see manual) and
enabled on your HD.  Or you could just try switching the devices
around - i.e. put the CD-ROM at the end of the chain.

In short, check the termination :)

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<tsb>

I've got TurboPrint 6 and just ordered the upgrade to v7 (not arrived yet)
I've also got an Epson Stylus Photo 750 that I use on my pc. I know that
IrseeSoft are in the process of writing a driver for the 750 but can any one
tell me if any of the drivers supplied at present with TP7 will produce an
acceptable (or even an unacceptable :) printout on the 750. The Epson Photo
driver supplied in TP6 just keeps pushing blank sheets of paper through the
printer (at least it doesn't spoil the paper by covering it with random
lines of ascii garbage which all I can get out of Linux on it as yet :( )

--

Just when you thought you'd made it fool proof
Some smartarse comes up with a new improved fool

John Kendall

Tim Seifert said, 

> Hi Neil,

>> The convention when using it for computer usage (and using 1024 makes a
>> great deal of sense in many situations) is to use "k" for 1000 and "K"
>> for 1024. 5KB is larger than 5kB (and a lot bigger than 5kb).
>> Unfortunately, this falls down when you start talking megabytes, 5mb is
>> rather too small to be useful.

> Gee, there's a convention is there?  When did that start?  </sarcasm>

It's an ad hoc convention, so there's no start date.

> This is as bad as that PMPO rubbish.

Except it is precisely defined, whereas PMPO has more to do with picking
lottery numbers than measuring sound.

> And computer monitors incorrectly
> measuring the non-visible part of the screen as a screen size.

And hard drive manufacturers designing drive in binary megabytes yet
marketing them in decimal megabytes :-O

> There is only one way it's going to get properly resolved, and that's
> to use some other name (that isn't a bastardisation of the SI k
> abbreviation), and one that is rigidly defined.

Nice idea, but I doubt it would work. A well designed, but late
arriving, standard has little chance against a well established de facto
standard. That's why most web sites use GIFs rather than PNGs.

Anyway, the marketing people would then have to find another way of
lying to consumers. At least these lies can be translated into truth, we
might end up with the equivalent of PMPO :(


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Don't just read the Tagline; read the MESSAGE!

Tim Seifert said, 

> Hi Neil,

>>> One would think, that in the interim, they'd find someone else to burn
>>> CDs so that they can sell their product, as well as keep their existing
>>> customers happy.

>> Who would pay for duplicating those CDs? Active have already paid
>> for one lot of duplication. And then what happens when/if the original
>> duplicators admit fault and agree to produce another batch for free?
>> Active would have two lotsa of CDs, two duplication bills but only one
>> lot of sales.

> Lets see.  I make a product, and have to sell it to make money.  My CD
> duplicator stuffs it.  Do I do nothing, while waiting for them to own
> up, or find someone else, get back into business, and *also* deal with
> the distributor who stuffed it, possibly getting compensation for
> damaged sales?

Firstly, who said they were doing nothing? That fact that CDs are being
produced soon implies that isn't the case.

> As a person who produces video tapes, if I went to a bulk duplicator,
> and they screwed up, and wouldn't fix it.  My first action would be to
> get someone else to get the job out on the market, then sue the one who
> screwed it, and knobbled my business.

Secondly, many Amiga companies are in a rather precarious position as
regards cashflow. Paying out double duplication bills plus legal bills
may not be an option. It's a fact that legal battles aren't always won
by whoever is right, but by who can afford the best legal
representation.

Thirdly, it simply isn't possible to get CD duplicated at short notice
at this time of year, unless you pay a *huge* premium. CD duplicators
are booked up producing CDs for Christmas. Come January, they'll be
begging for business. This is why I initially suggested the duplicators
were employing delaying tactics, not to get out of redoing them but to
delay it until they had the time. If they admitted fault as soon as it
happened they would have to bump other, contracted, work to fit in the
new run.


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Hello Sam

On 06-Dec-99, you wrote:

> Hi Chris
> =

>> I'm thinking about ordering some stuff from Alive Mediasoft *but*
> they don't
>> take credit cards,  I seem to remember, they applied for 'credit card
>> status' but must have been turned down or somefink.  =

>> =

>> Any comments on their service/support?
> =

> Ive never had any trouble with them, and although you cant order via
> the web, you can order with a credit card over the phone.  =

Are you sure they take credit cards?  =


I just called them and they said to print out the order form from the
website and send a cheque with my order.  There are no Visa/Mastercard
symbols anywhere on their literature.  And as I'm spending over =A3100, I=

want the protection that a credit card offers when spending over =A3100.

Regards

chris
-- =

We fillied around with other travelers of the night, playing Hogs of the
Road.
-- Alex, A Clockwork Orange

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram, OS3.5, CGX V4=
=2E1

Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Deno=
n
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... =

> > PowerFlyer is working in 'Safe mode'. Erm? (And no RTFM please, as I
> > have).
> 
> YOU GOT A MANUAL WITH YOURS?!????  Lucky bast. I didn't get one my   
      > PowerFlyer 4000 gold, or with my old Blizzard 1230 MkIV back in
my old A1200 > days either. Weird.

In fact, I can't remember a product which *hasn't* come with a
manual...(Except NetConnect2 and Photogenics 4, but they're aloud to -
CD based docs)

Paul

>>>  Chris (WooHoo! Egroups is sending me afb mail again)
>>
>> When did it start again Chris? I started getting mine again this
>> weekend - after nearly 2 weeks without!

> What? you people too? O_O I thought I was the only one experiencing t=
his
> weird phenomenon... I started receiving mail on the weekend as well,
> after a LONG silence (re-setting my preferences at Egroups hadn=B4t
> helped, so I had almost given up hope).

That settles it - egroups must have been buggered...  how can a simple =
thing
like a mailing list cause so many problems??

RobM
=

Isn't UNZIP in most AFCD's C: drawer, anyway?
btw, I don't like PKAUNZIP - its not capable of unzipping most files and
it can't handle disk spanned files either (as rare as they might be
becoming now, its still very usefull)

-curry
-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

Hi John,

> I've got TurboPrint 6 and just ordered the upgrade to v7 (not arrived yet)
> I've also got an Epson Stylus Photo 750 that I use on my pc. I know that
> IrseeSoft are in the process of writing a driver for the 750 but can any
> one tell me if any of the drivers supplied at present with TP7 will
> produce an acceptable (or even an unacceptable :) printout on the 750. The
> Epson Photo driver supplied in TP6 just keeps pushing blank sheets of
> paper through the printer (at least it doesn't spoil the paper by covering
> it with random lines of ascii garbage which all I can get out of Linux on
> it as yet :( )

Yep, the 740 driver works okay according to someone on here...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
try: http://www.iarchitect.com/msoft.htm

Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> > I still can't figure out how to edit the scanline/raytracing prefs
> > within the editor
> 
> Hold SHIFT while you click on the button to Scanline or Raytrace
> 
Aha!!!!
Many thanks - I can now.. um... change those prefs instead of loading
scenes in the tracer externally.

Any more tricks like this?

> > can't work out, too, like why the "A-(B)" boolean operator
> > doesn't cover up exposed sides, and why the polyon objects do
> > the same thing each time you select them after the first usage,
> > unless you delete you're polygons.
> 
> Weird.. you using the same version of C4D? :)
> 
The one on CUCD27, yes.

Sometimes A-(B) covers exposed sides, but its all seems a bit dodgy and
erratic. Maybe something I'm doing wrong? Can't think what.
Rearanging the object tree structure (or atleast, the position of the
polygons in it) helps with the polygon object problem.


> > Grrr... if only I was 40 and a CD drive better off when the
> > C4D offer was valid...
> 
> Too late now! Bwahahaahah!

Nnnnnnnnoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

-curry, who formated his hardrive. Whoops.

-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

Due to recent political events, an extra boolean contsant has now been
defined. The following constants, and their definitions, are now valid;

TRUE = -1,
FALSLE = 0 and
ARCHER = somewhere_between_-1_and_0_but_we_cant_be_sure

> Due to recent political events, an extra boolean contsant has now been
> defined. The following constants, and their definitions, are 
> now valid;
> 
> TRUE = -1,
> FALSLE = 0 and
> ARCHER = somewhere_between_-1_and_0_but_we_cant_be_sure

Err... since when has TRUE been -1 and FALSE been 0?

You be a BASIC head, I can tell ;)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi MARRISR@uk.ibm.com,

> That settles it - egroups must have been buggered... how can a simple
> thing like a mailing list cause so many problems??

I've never bounced a single message to any of the lists I'm subscribed to
with eGroups...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I'd like to change the world, but they won't give me 
the source code. (Even if /they/ did I don't program...)

Sam Byford wrote:

> Yay!  I have an Amstrad!  An old CPC 464, Tape drive and green screen
> monitor.
Bleh, I had a 6128 with a 2.5"(ish?) disk drive.
Disk drive packed in about 2 years ago and we had to get chuck of it <(

> Love Frontier Elite II, 

Elite II? On the AMSTRAD!?! 
>given away on Amstrad Action (to
> which I subbed till the end).  8 minutes to load, vector graphics, damn
> playable, I had at least 20 A4 sheets with planet information and
> average goods cost on them! And that was just for the first galaxy.
> Lost count how many planets I visited in the second galazy before
> moving on to number 3.

Nah, you mean the origional - F(EII) had (some) texture mapped polygons
and only one galaxy - the milky way. ALL OF IT. And yet it fits onto a
DD disk with room to spare.

Space combat isn't as gracefull, cos of the terribly AI. And its
terribly buggy. Anyone got Elite III? First Contact, it was called IIRC.
There was an Elite+, too which is better than the origional, but still
pretty much the same.
Reminds m of Captain blood quite a bit. Never could get far on that.....
</remice>

> 
> :)
=P


-curry, wanting all his old games back... and his spectrum, and the 6128
-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

> Err... since when has TRUE been -1 and FALSE been 0?
> 
> You be a BASIC head, I can tell ;)

Ahhh, so thats why none of my C programs work...
oh, no, thats because I don't have a clue.

But is it funny?

-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

> > Err... since when has TRUE been -1 and FALSE been 0?
> > 
> > You be a BASIC head, I can tell ;)
> 
> Ahhh, so thats why none of my C programs work...
> oh, no, thats because I don't have a clue.
> 
> But is it funny?

No, because anyone who programs in C would be able to
pick things out from your little 'program' which suck
all the fun out of it. It's one thing to make a joke,
but making an inaccurate one? ;)

--
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester 

>> Ahhh, so thats why none of my C programs work...
>> oh, no, thats because I don't have a clue.
>>
>> But is it funny?

> No, because anyone who programs in C would be able to
> pick things out from your little 'program' which suck
> all the fun out of it. It's one thing to make a joke,
> but making an inaccurate one? ;)

FOR SALE:  Sense of humour - one owner, hardly used.
Contact:
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

:)

RobM

MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:
> 
> FOR SALE:  Sense of humour - one owner, hardly used.
> Contact:
> Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk
> Distributed Systems Support
> Computer Centre
> University of Leicester
> 
Can you garuntee it works, and is compatable with my current one?

=P


-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

Hi Ben,

Anymore news from the guys and gals at PowerC? Sorry if I seem a little
eager, because, well, I am!

Paul

Hi amipal@yahoo.com,

> Anymore news from the guys and gals at PowerC? Sorry if I seem a little
> eager, because, well, I am!

Only what I said last time. Be patient, it'll almost certainly be the end of
January before it's worth pestering them.

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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       Tagline unfunny. Steal anyway? [Y/n]

Just seen this...

BT has today announced the launch of BT SurfTime
- price packages for unlimited internet access.

Subject to agreement with Oftel, BT SurfTime will
be available from spring next year and will
consist of a range of unlimited usage packages
for a single monthly fee.

The packages will be available both to consumers
and small businesses in the UK and will be aimed
at both heavy and infrequent users of the
internet.

The BT SurfTime options will be:

*Weekend internet option* - 
a 6.99 per month charge for unlimited access at
the weekend plus any applicable internet service
provider (ISP)charge. On weekdays, customers will
be charged at one penny per minute during the
evening and night-time period and two pence per
minute during the day.
 

*Evening and night-time internet option* - 
a 6.99 per month charge for unlimited access
during the evening and night-time Monday to
Friday, plus an applicable ISP subscription
charge. At weekends, customers will be charged
one penny per minute - and two pence per
minute on weekdays.

*Daytime internet option* - 
a 26.99 per month charge for unlimited access
during the day Monday to Friday, plus any
applicable ISP subscription charge. Outside this
period customers will be charged one penny per
minute.

*Anytime internet option* - 
a 34.99 per month charge for unlimited access at
any time - day, evening and night-time and
weekends - plus any applicable ISP subscription
charge.

*'Pay-as-you-go'* internet option - 
internet calls charged at one penny per minute
during the evening, night-time and weekends and
two pence per minute during the day, plus any
applicable ISP subscription charge.

BT UK Group Managing Director Bill Cockburn
said: "BT SurfTime is the most significant
development for the internet in the UK.

"It has been made possible through a major new
network investment, in addition to the
hundreds of millions of pounds we have already
invested."

All prices include VAT.


                                                                                     

> Just seen this... [snip]

Where?

pand-@enterprise.net wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=39236
> Just seen this...
> 
> BT has today announced the launch of BT SurfTime
> - price packages for unlimited internet access.

Whoopee Be do!.

Sorry But I am having a real hard time getting excited about this.
- Why until spring? why not now?

However I agree it is a step in the right direction, I read somewhere
today
that the Government are launching a Medical assistance web site. As
well as
allowing schools to setup their own websites to provide assistance to
pupils
with thier homework.

The internet will one day be as important to everyone the TV is now.

Regards

Mikey C

Does anyone know if there'll be further versions of WarpUP?

Hi riksweeney@hotmail.com,

> Does anyone know if there'll be further versions of WarpUP?

Yep, of course there will. Until it's no longer needed...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
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try this: http://www.ann.lu

http://www.di-games.co.uk/Wipeout2097_Demo.lha (3.8MB)

if anyone managed to download this can they send it to me please?

csm70474@port.ac.uk

cheers

> http://www.di-games.co.uk/Wipeout2097_Demo.lha (3.8MB)
> 
> if anyone managed to download this can they send it to me please?
> 
> csm70474@port.ac.uk

Why not get it off the Amigactive cover CD? Or wait for AF to put it on
theirs, as I'm sure it'll be on it this issue.

Paul

Ben Vost said:

> PS. You probably won't hear about Jim for a long time. He signed a
> non-competition clause when he joined Gateway/was promoted inside Gateway,
> which means that he can't work for a competing computer company for at
> least two years, otherwise he can be sued and will also lose a huge sum of
> money in share options...

Two years is the normal contract, but Jim had quite a bit of leverage when he
signed on at Gateway.  I'd be surprised if he hadn't negotiated a shorter
non-competition clause, it's not an uncommon thing for people to do in that
job market. 

Cheers, 

Andrew Korn

 


 

"andrew korn" <andrew.kor-@lineone.net> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=39243
> Ben Vost said:

> Two years is the normal contract, but Jim had quite a bit of leverage
when he
> signed on at Gateway.  I'd be surprised if he hadn't negotiated a
shorter
> non-competition clause, it's not an uncommon thing for people to do
in that
> job market. 

Well good for him, speaking for myself, The Amiga community and indeed
the Amiga are worse off without him. 

Shame, the Amiga had a brief glimmer of hope, it's all gone now.

Wonder where we shall all be five years from now...

Regards

Mikey C

> Shame, the Amiga had a brief glimmer of hope, it's all gone now.
> 
> Wonder where we shall all be five years from now...
> 
Laughing at PC owner whenever a stray photon passes through their .08
micron x86 proccessors and makes it crash.

-curator
-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

> > Shame, the Amiga had a brief glimmer of hope, it's all gone now.
> > 
> > Wonder where we shall all be five years from now...
>  
> Laughing at PC owner whenever a stray photon passes through their .08
> micron x86 proccessors and makes it crash.

Just a thought, do cosmic rays REALLY affect computers at all, or
what?

I mean, if they can make astronauts see white flashes in their eyes,
surely some could get down and dodge around in the middle of one of
your chip registers or something? :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Just a thought, do cosmic rays REALLY affect computers at all, or
> what?

> I mean, if they can make astronauts see white flashes in their eyes,
> surely some could get down and dodge around in the middle of one of
> your chip registers or something? :)

Well in theory yes...
As an example soft errors can occur in your RAM (which is why we use parity
internally) which is usually explained (in text books) as "spontaneous
radioactive decay of an atom in the chip's casing which causes a single bit to
lose it's charge" - it's not beyond belief that some of these errors could
actually be caused by cosmic rays.

On a slightly different note: A mate of mine did a degree in physics at Kings
Uni, and his final project was to build a laser (I think it was a liquid laser)
- he started hearing complaints from the computer room next door about their
computers crashing, and it turned out that his laser worked at the same
frequency as the Pentiums - the EM interference it was putting out was high
energy on a very narrow band at exactly the right frequency to completely screw
a Pentium!
Not *quite* relevant, but still.....

RobM

> > Just a thought, do cosmic rays REALLY affect computers at all, or
> > what?
> 
> > I mean, if they can make astronauts see white flashes in their eyes,
> > surely some could get down and dodge around in the middle of one of
> > your chip registers or something? :)
> 
> Well in theory yes...
> As an example soft errors can occur in your RAM (which is why 
> we use parity internally)

And ECC memory ;)

> which is usually explained (in text books) as "spontaneous
> radioactive decay of an atom in the chip's casing which 
> causes a single bit to lose it's charge" - it's not beyond
> belief that some of these errors could actually be caused
> by cosmic rays.

Neat. If only we could open a hole in the Ozone over Redmond..

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi,

What links Apollo 13 and JFK? (I wanted a third to make my connection
clearer, but I can't think of any. Clues will be offered).

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
         I'll try anything once too often

Hi all,

Sorry about that, that mail was meant to go to the afb-movie list, but I
sent it to the wrong place. Still, have a go...

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)      /PGP key available/   T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
try this: http://www.music365.co.uk

Sealey, M. wrote:

> Just a thought, do cosmic rays REALLY affect computers at all, or
> what?
Only if the photons have sufficient energy to trigger enough of the the
transister gate, which would have to be very small. If a high energy
photon where to strike a MOS transistor and ionize part of it, a small
electric field would be generated. In MOS transistors, electric fields
are used to control current flow, and the smaller the transistor the
smaller the electric field required trigger it. Therefore a chip with
really small strips would be liable to randomisation by background
radiation.

> 
> I mean, if they can make astronauts see white flashes in their eyes,
> surely some could get down and dodge around in the middle of one of
> your chip registers or something? :)
Not cosmic rays, no (some does get through, but not very much), but
there's plenty of radiation about as it is - granite, radon gas,
uranium, plutonium, nuclear fallout etc etc...

When you get really small chips, there's also the problem of quantum
tunneling - the tendancies of electrons to jump trough things which
would overwise block them.

I don't know what size mask would be needed for these problems to occur,
but I doubt we'll get any further than 0.9 microns.

-curry

-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:
> On a slightly different note: A mate of mine did a degree in physics at Kings
> Uni, and his final project was to build a laser (I think it was a liquid laser)
> - he started hearing complaints from the computer room next door about their
> computers crashing, and it turned out that his laser worked at the same
> frequency as the Pentiums - the EM interference it was putting out was high
> energy on a very narrow band at exactly the right frequency to completely screw
> a Pentium!

I WANT ONE!!!!!

or two

-- 
"I am not here to Answer Questions, but to Question Answers."

> Hi,
> 
> What links Apollo 13 and JFK? (I wanted a third to make my connection
> clearer, but I can't think of any. Clues will be offered).

As is with all films, it's Kevin Bacon ;)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hey Everyone...
    This is my first message to the AFB system, and the one major
question I have is:
     Does anyone know of a user group in Ireland, preferably the Dublin
/ Wicklow area? I've been looking at the AF ads, and I've never seen
one in Ireland. I'd also be interested in starting up a new group in
the Dublin / Wicklow area, if anyone was interested... E-mail me if
you're interested...
daedalus@redbrick.dcu.ie
Cheers, 
        Rob.

Hi daedalus@redbrick.dcu.ie,

>    This is my first message to the AFB system, and the one major

Welcome.

>     Does anyone know of a user group in Ireland, preferably the Dublin
> / Wicklow area? I've been looking at the AF ads, and I've never seen
> one in Ireland. I'd also be interested in starting up a new group in
> the Dublin / Wicklow area, if anyone was interested... E-mail me if
> you're interested...

I'll give you the standard reply before everyone else chips in:

Use the lost souls database on http://uk.amigasoc.org


All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                      F: (+44) 01225 732275
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
World Health Organisation Appeals For Snappy Name 
For Devastating New Plague

"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=39255
> Hi daedalus@redbrick.dcu.ie,

> 
> I'll give you the standard reply before everyone else chips in:
> 
> Use the lost souls database on http://uk.amigasoc.org
> 

Or look under the usergroups section in Amiga Yellow Pages
http://ayp.amiga.tm
</SHAMELESS PLUG> ;)

Regards

Mikey C
 
 

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Steven Holmes <s.holmes@free4all.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  07-Dec-99 05:23:30
 Re:  [afb] Re: OS3.5 and WB backdrops

Hi Steven,

>>> Anyone know how to stop the damned annoying scrolling of a
>>> backdrop/window picture in OS3.5?
>>> I bloody hate it and want it static as before.

>> So long as you have your screen mode correct for your display all you
>> need to do is turn  auto scroll off,  also to be found in the screen mode
>> requester. 
>> 
>> This works for me, I hope it will help you.

> Didn't make any difference...

Sorry I don't have 3.5, so I can't help, *but* I'm curious.  Do you mean
that backgrounds in windows scroll as you scroll the window (background
scrolls along with the icon)?

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Terry Imrie <timrie@ukonline.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  07-Dec-99 06:48:23
 Re:  [afb] Squirrell SCSI Help Needed

Hi Terry,

> can anyone help - i have been using a squirrell interface with my a1200
> with a CD rom on ID3 i recently added a HD on ID6 - but i cannot get
> the HD to appear when the CD rom is connected - both are ok on there
> own but together the HD always disapears (scsi mounter says the CD rom
> inhabits ID's 0-6 i think) ???

You do have the CD and HD on different addresses don't you?  They have
to be.  It doesn't matter which ones (as long as your drivers, or other
program parameters are looking for the device at the right address).

Also, make sure the last thing is terminated (the thing on the absolute
end of the cable), and anything plugged in the middle is unterminated.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Ben Vost wrote:
> > That settles it - egroups must have been buggered... how can a simple
> > thing like a mailing list cause so many problems??
> I've never bounced a single message to any of the lists I'm subscribed to
> with eGroups...

  Nothing was bouncing, I just didn't get any mails (I still read from the
site, just not as often).  The same happened with afb-ot (alough in that
case I got a bundle of 700+ messages in one day when it decided that it
liked me again!)

  I think it could have been that post-yourself-a-message-from-the-site
trick, which is a handy tip to remember (I think Rob did that too), that
did it (maybe).


bye,
  Chris, Mr Tangent.

What IS going on with Iwin. I`ve heard that much talk about how they
aren`t producing Amigas, & it`s all a big wind up, yet they have
registered a couple of sites, under the Amiga, & amiga-compatible name.
There is nothing to view on the sites yet, but apparently info. is to
follow. (Check out the news section, entry dated Nov. 19th) on
http://www.iwin-corp.com

If it`s a big joke I think it`s all gone too far. If it isn`t,
shouldn`t we all be getting exited??

Alan

Maybe I`m stupid, but I live in hope!

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Michael Carrillo wrote:
> Well good for him, speaking for myself, The Amiga community and indeed
> the Amiga are worse off without him. 

  The community yes, but the Amiga?  Well, we were all promised a trip to
the seaside.  All packed in the car, buckets and spades, rubber digeys,
pocket money saved up.  Then it started raining so we can't go, and we
can't go next week or for a while yet because Dad has to work.  Then after
that you'll be back at school.  Or something.
 

bye,
  Chris

Folks
Have you all see http://www.iwin-corp.com/enmain/Products/products.html ??
I've been away for a while so this might be old news - but they've started
calling their "Amiga" machines the MCC!!!
and on
http://www.iwin-corp.com/enmain/Products/G-MCC_Workstation-e/A-Mode-e/a-mode-e.html

they explain that the Amiga emulation is purely software on a flashcard...
Like I said, sorry if this is old news....

RobM

Ben Vost said, 

> Sorry about that, that mail was meant to go to the afb-movie list, but I
> sent it to the wrong place. Still, have a go...

At the quiz, or at you for the off-topic post? :)

BTW the link is that JFK instigated the Apollo programme. Since you
didn't post to afb-movie, it makes sense to look for a non-movie link :)


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

Hi Neil,

> BTW the link is that JFK instigated the Apollo programme. Since you
> didn't post to afb-movie, it makes sense to look for a non-movie link :)

It's true, as was the Kevin Bacon link, but it's not the answer I'm looking
for </Roy Walker mode>

All the best,
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Evil Surgeons Demand Black Smocks

> > Well good for him, speaking for myself, The Amiga community and
indeed
> > the Amiga are worse off without him. 
> 
>   The community yes, but the Amiga?  Well, we were all promised a
trip to
> the seaside.  All packed in the car, buckets and spades, rubber
digeys,
> pocket money saved up.  Then it started raining so we can't go, and we
> can't go next week or for a while yet because Dad has to work.  Then
after
> that you'll be back at school.  Or something.

When I heard Jim's speech at the World of Amiga, it gave me hope for
the first time in years. It was as if he was some kind of Fuhrer,
making the crowd believe every word he said. A few weeks later, all
that hope was in tatters. Now that I am rehabilitated again, I still
feel there is hope for the Amiga, I just don't believe it will be as
great as Jim prophesised...

Paul

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Neil Bothwick <neil@wire.net.uk>
 To:  Tim Seifert <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  07-Dec-99 08:44:14
 Re:  [afb] Re: Kind of a prob...

Hi Neil,

>>> The convention when using it for computer usage (and using 1024 makes a
>>> great deal of sense in many situations) is to use "k" for 1000 and "K"
>>> for 1024. 5KB is larger than 5kB (and a lot bigger than 5kb).
>>> Unfortunately, this falls down when you start talking megabytes, 5mb is
>>> rather too small to be useful.

>> Gee, there's a convention is there?  When did that start?  </sarcasm>

> It's an ad hoc convention, so there's no start date.

>> This is as bad as that PMPO rubbish.

> Except it is precisely defined, whereas PMPO has more to do with picking
> lottery numbers than measuring sound.

Yes and no.  Okay, we've got one of two choices that we know it may be,
but don't really know which one it is (about the only clue a person has,
is the track record of the company distributing the device).

> And hard drive manufacturers designing drive in binary megabytes yet
> marketing them in decimal megabytes :-O

>> There is only one way it's going to get properly resolved, and that's
>> to use some other name (that isn't a bastardisation of the SI k
>> abbreviation), and one that is rigidly defined.

> Nice idea, but I doubt it would work. A well designed, but late
> arriving, standard has little chance against a well established de facto
> standard. That's why most web sites use GIFs rather than PNGs.

Now, if only someone could publish the equivelent of a RFC on the
matter, and put the pressure on...  ;-\

> Anyway, the marketing people would then have to find another way of
> lying to consumers. At least these lies can be translated into truth, we
> might end up with the equivalent of PMPO :(

Yeah, like all the adverts proclaiming some "unique" feature of their
product, which is anything but unique.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 By:  MARRISR <MARRISR@uk.ibm.com>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  07-Dec-99 22:58:35
 Re:  [afb] Re: afb digest

Hi MARRISR,

>> Just a thought, do cosmic rays REALLY affect computers at all, or
>> what?

>> I mean, if they can make astronauts see white flashes in their eyes,
>> surely some could get down and dodge around in the middle of one of
>> your chip registers or something? :)

> Well in theory yes...
> As an example soft errors can occur in your RAM (which is why we use parity
> internally) which is usually explained (in text books) as "spontaneous
> radioactive decay of an atom in the chip's casing which causes a single bit 
> lose it's charge" - it's not beyond belief that some of these errors could
> actually be caused by cosmic rays.

Cosmic rays are attributed to circuit breakers tripping on extremely
high voltage lines from power stations (the long cables make them more
susceptible).  If cosmic rays can knock out high powered equipment, then
yes, there's no reason why they can't knobble sensitive computer parts.
And it is a quite widely accepted theory anyway (not just that can cause
a temporary random action, but also cause permanent damage).

> On a slightly different note: A mate of mine did a degree in physics at King
> Uni, and his final project was to build a laser (I think it was a liquid las
> - he started hearing complaints from the computer room next door about their
> computers crashing, and it turned out that his laser worked at the same
> frequency as the Pentiums - the EM interference it was putting out was high
> energy on a very narrow band at exactly the right frequency to completely sc
> a Pentium!

We used to do the same thing in electronics class - screwing up other
students experiments with radio gear by transmitting an unmodulated
carrier on a wire strung along the back of the benches.  ;-)

Though the worst thing was where our TV lab was situatued, right next a
pneumatics lab.  The last sound any TV tech ever likes hearing is
pffffssssshhhhhh (the sound of the vacuum escaping from the picture
tube, for those wondering what that meant).

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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> What IS going on with Iwin. I`ve heard that much talk about how they
> aren`t producing Amigas, & it`s all a big wind up, yet they have
> registered a couple of sites, under the Amiga, & 
> amiga-compatible name.
> There is nothing to view on the sites yet, but apparently info. is to
> follow. (Check out the news section, entry dated Nov. 19th) on
> http://www.iwin-corp.com
> 
> If it`s a big joke I think it`s all gone too far. If it isn`t,
> shouldn`t we all be getting exited??

It *isn't* a big joke, and it *never* was. Only stupid people 
carried that notion on for more than a fortnight. A twisted
publicity stunt to get a failing startup company noticed? Most
probably, given that they were finally bought out by another
company.

The systems they have NOW seem to be a lot more realistic, using
software emulation of Amigas in ROM (but you need a real Amiga
ROM to make it work - it's just UAE but without Windows in other
words ;)

I sure would like to see one going to see if the emulation is
up to scratch, or even any good at all. Or if it's anything
more than UAE burned into a ROM.

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> Hi Neil,
> 
> > BTW the link is that JFK instigated the Apollo programme. Since you
> > didn't post to afb-movie, it makes sense to look for a 
> > non-movie link :)
> 
> It's true, as was the Kevin Bacon link, but it's not the 
> answer I'm looking for </Roy Walker mode>

Awww. Say what you see, eh? 

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> It's true, as was the Kevin Bacon link, but it's not the answer I'm
looking
> for </Roy Walker mode>

Apollo 13 got shot into space and so did bits of JFK?

;)

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 riksweeney@hotmail.com wrote:

> Does anyone know if there'll be further versions of WarpUP?

yes - join the WarpUP mailing list for better in depth discussion on
this sort of thing

alan

Hi Everyone,

My brother-in-law successfully installed OS3.5 onto his A1200.

Besides the standard 2mb chipmem he also has 32mb fastmem.

Opening up the Workbench window, then the C dir window disabled the pulldown
menus as he was told there was not enough memory. I take this to be chipmem as
it went down to about 54k!

Booting up on the Workbench floppy disk enabled him to open up various windows
and to pull across various files without chipmem loss.

Is there something amiss here?

Thanks

Bill

On 06-Dec-99, Chris Green wrote:

> All I can say is that as a journalist I am often bound by non-disclosure
> agreements (NDAs) which prevent me from publishing any information I might
> have before a particular date or event.

Ok then (this is to Ben too) do you have any news regarding amiga? I know
you cant tell us, but all I want to know is if there is anything happening
at all, and whether you have proof, not just the lying cunts at AI telling
you a, b and c will happen.

Mash - 
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On 06-Dec-99, Chris Andrews wrote:

>> (jeez some people) or better still maybe unzip ? see the link? you want
>> to use a zip file, therefore you search for zip, geddit?

>  To search for "unzip" is not as obvious as you might think.

but "zip" will still get you a thousand and one decompressors

Mash - 
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Hi M.
Somewhere around 06-Dec-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re:
M.Sealey needs moderating

> I would just like to thank my loyal base of supporters
> for sticking by me.

ahhhh :) bless

> Thanks, guys, it's almost tear-inducing :)

quote of the millennium;

"/Go moderate yourself, or at least crawl out of your own arse./"

Mash - 
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"I drank WHAT!?" - Socrates.

On 06-Dec-99, Ben Vost wrote:

> It'd be nice if it could happen, but since we don't have anyone who'd
> write one, it doesn't look like going ahead. If any of you lot want to
> write a C4D/Imagine tutorial, then let us know...

Me me me me me me!, but not for 2 weeks 'cos I'm off the the Canary islands
for some sun and sand :) mmmm, 28C :D

Mash - 
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On 06-Dec-99, Tudor Davies wrote:

> Age 28 - married (second time) 1 daughter (baby)
> Work record:
> age 15 - YTS for PC/Mac dealer
> age 16 - Support technician for Financial Corporate
> age 17 - Network technician for Bank

<snip>

nerd

;)...but are you happy?

Mash - 
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I'd love to, but I have left my body in my other clothes.

Hi Oliver
Somewhere around 06-Dec-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re:
Money, Money, Money (Kinda OT)

> (well, I used to when people registered F1GP-Ed ;( in pounds sterling,

Dont mean to diss your efforts, but an editor for a god-knows-how-old f1
game on a pretty dead platform isn't going to be the most profitable
program ever :/

Mash - 
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Sometimes the fax lie.

On 06-Dec-99, Ben Vost wrote:

> Coo blow Tudor. Beer's are on you at the next SWAG meeting! :)

I have a niggling feeling that the membership is going to suddenly increase
=)

Mash - 
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Famous Last Words: Let's go to the Bookstore. --JFK.

Sorry to bother everyone, I probably will sound like a goof, but I have
a problem.  I recently pulled out my A1200 from storage to find out if
it was still in working order after 17 months of exclusively using my
first new PC (Pentium II class).  I am going to S.Korea for a year, and
wish to use the A1200 and A500 I have to occupy my time until I get
back.
Anyway, while trying the A1200 out, I could not remember the key
shortcut to get to the screen mode menu on start-up, so I could change
it screen to display in NTSC mode, intead of a European display (can't
remember what it's called).  Almost all the programs I have are in NTSC
format, as is my monitor.

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
P.S.  I leave for the Orient today.  Wish me luck.

Scott
pattons300@aol.com, pattons300@yahoo.com

On 7 Dec 1999, Bill wrote:

> Booting up on the Workbench floppy disk enabled him to open up various windows
> and to pull across various files without chipmem loss.

hmmm, is he still running FastPrefs or something? Use IPrefs and the
WBCtrl and then FastMem will be used instead of ChipMEM - also use
FBlit if you dont have a gfx card...256 colour WB screen with the new
Icon system will eat a lot of memory!

alan

>> Does anyone know if there'll be further versions of WarpUP?

> Yep, of course there will. Until it's no longer needed...

/me thinks Ben knows somthing, that's a very positive "until it's" as opposed to an "if it's" IYSWIM
I suppose really it's pointing to a future PPC OS, PowerOS or QNX thingy or even Workbench, we can hope eh?

Neil Thomas AKA BobF

Hi!

> Sam Byford wrote:
> 
> > Yay!  I have an Amstrad!  An old CPC 464, Tape
> drive and green screen
> > monitor.
> Bleh, I had a 6128 with a 2.5"(ish?) disk drive.
> Disk drive packed in about 2 years ago and we had to
> get chuck of it <(

Well I used a Commodore Plus/4 for yeeearrs, still
have fond memories of Bridgehead, Fire Ant, Treasure
Island, Icicle Works etc. etc.  Any other old C16/+4
heads on here?

DAN



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> Anyway, while trying the A1200 out, I could not remember the key
> shortcut to get to the screen mode menu on start-up

Hold both mouse buttons down on bootup, then press any key when the
grey screen appears. Click boot to, erm, boot.

Paul

amipa-@yahoo.com wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=39284
> > Anyway, while trying the A1200 out, I could not remember the key
> > shortcut to get to the screen mode menu on start-up
> 
> Hold both mouse buttons down on bootup, then press any key when the
> grey screen appears. Click boot to, erm, boot.
> 
> Paul
> 
Many thanks. No wonder the 25 or so different combos I used with Cntrl,
Shift, and Amiga keys didn't work!  I've been too long on my PC I
guess.  I'll write this one down.

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, [iso-8859-1] Mirrorball wrote:
> Well I used a Commodore Plus/4 for yeeearrs, still have fond memories of
> Bridgehead, Fire Ant, Treasure Island, Icicle Works etc. etc.  Any other
> old C16/+4 heads on here? 

  I had one before it caught fire.  Yep, poof! The thing went up.  After
dunking it in the sink I found that it was jam packed with spider's webs.
The freeloaders.

  Treasure Island though!  Now there IS a few memories... trying to tempt
the pirates into throwing a sword at you so that you could run away far
enough for it to land (not out the screen though, on no!) then you pick it
up and lob it at the blighter.  Why couldn't you just hit them with it? ;)

bye,
  Chris

> > > Does anyone know if there'll be further versions of WarpUP?
> 
> > Yep, of course there will. Until it's no longer needed...
> 
> /me thinks Ben knows somthing, that's a very positive "until 
> it's" as opposed to an "if it's" IYSWIM I suppose really it's
> pointing to a future PPC OS, PowerOS or QNX thingy or even
> Workbench, we can hope eh?

People really should stop reading too far into things that
other people say. 

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 07:54:39PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> nerd

If you knew me, you would now how untrue that is :)

> ;)...but are you happy?

Extremely - are you...

l8r
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On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 07:56:02PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> > Coo blow Tudor. Beer's are on you at the next SWAG meeting! :)
> I have a niggling feeling that the membership is going to suddenly increase
> =)

Bugger :)
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